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PostSubject: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sat Jun 20, 2009 12:06 pm

I finally took the Cub plans, laid them out on a hollow core door and found out why the box was so big. To actually see it laid out on a door and it outsizes the door, makes it a daunting project.

I would like to first say, I'm impressed with the amount of hardware this plane comes with. The $600.00 price tag seemed to be a bit high at first until I saw all the extras... tires, every nut, bolt and screw... mounting plate you can think of. Even the rudder bellcranks, which look fairly scale, are included. If I'm disappointed in anything in the kit, it would be the elevator control. I'm probably going to set up a pull-pull on it using a bellcrank cluster similar to what I made for the Buccaneer. I think I'm going to make the joysticks active by setting up separate micro servos to pull the joysticks back and forward, also left and right as each control surface is moved. I may do the same with the rudder peddles. I'm not sure yet about this. I thought about having them attached, but thought better as there is a chance of binding with wear... I am not cool with that at all.

I have access to some plexi-glass rods which have very thin sidewalls and may put in tilt and bank bubbles too. As for the wood, I'm very impressed with the balsa and plywood they use.

I ordered the scale aileron and dummy engine kits for this plane. My Pegasus is a bit shorter in width than the scale Continental 65 HP engine. I was sort of disappointed in the engine kit.

In my opinion not a lot for the bucks, but workable. I've sent an email to Balsa USA about my feelings. The rocker covers, I felt, should have at minimum, had the Continental engine name embossed into the plastic. Their response was typical cost vs sales response, "It would cost more to do this." My feeling is when someone makes a mold... the engraving of the name on the covers would only set them back a few hours of set up. As they said, "It would drive the cost of selling them higher." I feel the off set in cost per sale would benefit them more. I know I would pay 4 or 5 extra dollars not to have to find a way to emboss the name in those rocker covers.

In retrospect I could have been satisfied with the 1/4 scale Cub and I probably should have gone with that one, but I had the money to go big... so what the hell. So as things progress with the Cub, I will try to take photos and post them.

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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jun 21, 2009 7:17 pm

im glad you finally got brave enough to open the box!
did you say that was a 65 HP engine?
that things going to fly! cant wait to see the build progress and as always take pics pics pics!
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jun 21, 2009 11:12 pm

michanic220 wrote:
im glad you finally got brave enough to open the box!
did you say that was a 65 HP engine?
that things going to fly! cant wait to see the build progress and as always take pics pics pics!

The full scale plane has a 65 HP engine. My scale engine is 4.2 HP four cylinder four stroke. I am building the 1938 era Piper Cub which started out with a 35 HP engine and was upgraded in the 40's to a 65HP engine. Sorry for the confusion.

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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:21 am

What is the wing span of that thing!
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Tue Jun 23, 2009 7:47 pm

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What is the wing span of that thing!

The wing is 140 inches with a flying weight of about 22-25 pounds. I am wrestling with the ailerons and wing assembly today. The scale ailerons, using the original plans don't fit the wing so I am having to translate the measurements to the wing plan... a pain in the a$$.
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:55 am

That is insane.... You are going to have to build a huge shop to hold all of those!!! hell if you keep getting bigger one day you can just build real airplanes!
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:05 pm

Well folks, here's the left wing in all it's glory. I have right one to build yet... LOL, but... I at least know what not to do on it... LOL Although the rib caps aren't on yet, this is the basic structure of the Cub wing.


The cat is saying WTF!!!! There's the Super Chipmunk mugging for a shot. Yes it is upside down hanging from my ceiling.



I thought I would give a perspective view... kind of Dali-ish... LOL
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jun 28, 2009 10:19 pm

holy crap that is big!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:12 pm

I am crazy when it comes to my planes. Yesterday Gwen and I drove (actually Gwen drove, I sat in the passenger seat), well anyway we drove to Hubler Field near where we live and took some wonderful photos of a full scale cub.

If you follow any of the Reno air races, Gary Hubler was killed when his plane, Mariah95, crashed after a mid-air with another plane. He was flying at the Reno Air Races on Friday, Sept. 14, 2007 when the accident happened. I knew him from the flying group in Caldwell.

Anyway his partner allowed me to get pictures of the the Cub's frame and wing and stabilizer mounting. I want to make this an ultimate scale plane. I have plans on making the control yoke (joy stick) moving with the actual wing, elevator and rudder controls. I bought 40 feet of scale cable so I can keep it as scale as I can. The floor, which is plywood in the full scale, will be finished the same as the full scale Cub. This plane isn't going together in a weekend... LOL
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:33 am

Think you can get it done in a month or twoo.... OH AND I want to see some pics Like always!


Nice to know people that can show you that kind of stuff!


Hey Also how is your forum?
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Thu Jul 02, 2009 10:37 am

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Think you can get it done in a month or twoo.... OH AND I want to see some pics Like always!


Nice to know people that can show you that kind of stuff!


Hey Also how is your forum?

I think several months to a year if everything goes ok. I have to do a lot of research to find which airframe I'm going to build. You see the Cub was first built in 1938 and continued through 1950 or so. It's plans were resurrected in 1990 because so many people wanted one so there are a lot of brand new Cubs being built in garages. Here's a 1943 frame of an actual Cub and it is hanging in a garage.


This is a 1940's vintage Cub.


So enough for the history lesson.

My Cub is going to be based on the 36 horse powered 1935-42 Piper Cub/L4 Bird Dog (Military version) but it will have the new color as the Lockhaven Yellow paint is no longer available. It will still be scale because it can be displayed as a restored 1938 version with new paint... if that makes sense. I have some scale turnbuckles and hinges coming. They should be here today.

The forum... ya, It's running ok... I have 36 members which is double what it was when one of my other managers decided to cap the membership at 20 and we only got 15. Most didn't post because of his ruling. When I took the group over again two months ago... I opened the group to anyone who wishes to write. He would delete people who didn't write at east one post a month... I felt he was too strict. If they post they post... my problem is replies. Only about 4 out of the 36 is active. I don't want to have them quit or ban them so I just leave them alone. They'll post when they want to.
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Thu Jul 02, 2009 12:05 pm

I love all the info you bring about the planes. Really do like that you stop in alot!!!


Glad to hear that your forum is hanging in there!

You can see that we are about the same!
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:51 pm

Well... here some up to date pictures. There are some photos of the full scale Cub I am using to model mine after. The frame is rough, but getting built slowly. This is still the left wing.







The full sale Cub from Hubler Field.


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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jul 05, 2009 2:11 am

That is awesome looks like a small kid will be able to fly it or a JOCKEY!!! LOL

Will you fly this one? Or any of them every!???
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PostSubject: Re: 1/3 scale Piper Cub Build   Sun Jul 05, 2009 11:55 am

I am hoping to fly this one. I am going to find someone who has flown larger planes to get it trimmed out. I am told the larger planes are easier to fly because the wind doesn't effect them as much as a smaller plane and this has 140 inch wing and will weigh in at about 25 pounds.
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